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WILDFIRE ADVISORY COMMITTEE
THURSDAY, SEPTEMBER 19, 2019 AT 4:30 P.M.
REGULAR MEETING
SAN RAFAEL COMMUNITY CENTER, ROOM 4
618 B STREET, SAN RAFAEL, CALIFORNIA
MEETING MINUTES
MEMBERS PRESENT:
Gary Phillips, Mayor
Romeo Arrieta
Gina Daly
Paula Kamena
Larry Luckham
Tom Obletz
Tom Unterman
Thomas Vogl
MEMBERS ABSENT: Maribeth Bushey, Councilmember; Lisa Dal Gallo; Kevin Hagerty; Robert
Chatham, Brian Waterbury; Sandra Luna; Lauren Withey; Stephen Mizroch
OTHERS PRESENT: Cristine Alilovich, Assistant City Manager--
Quinn Gardner, Emergency Manager Coordinator, Staff Liaison--
Christopher Gray, Fire Chief
Stephanie Moulton-Peters, Mill Valley Councilmember
Christine Foster, Digital Services
INTRODUCTION
Mayor Gary Phillips welcomed and thanked committee and members of the public in
attendance.
OPEN TIME FOR PUBLIC EXPRESSION
Resident, Katie Miller of East San Rafael, raised concerns of costs and benefits of the 3-foot
hardscape proposal. She hopes that the City of San Rafael will follow in Mill Valley’s footsteps
and make this voluntary and not mandatory. Mayor challenged her on “the greater good”. Miller
went back to the cost and believes we should be more concerned about eucalyptus trees and
drone batteries. Quinn brought clarification to the definition “hardscape”. Romeo Arrieta stated
that “we” have not determined the distance, asked for confirmation about whether there has
been a formal vote. Quinn responded.
Bonnie Morris from Dominican neighborhood raised concerns about the bio-diversities within
the 5-foot distance from her home. She expressed that even though residents care very much
about fire safety, but there are other factors we need to take into consideration with climate
change.
The Mayor asked for committee introductions.
APPROVAL OF MINUTES FROM August 28, 2019 MEETING
Quinn addressed the content change in regard to the JPA, bullet point 3 to clarify how all
percentages of the potential tax funds would be spent. Paula Kamena was added to the
members present list. There were also some minor typographical corrections.
Arrieta voted to accept changes, Luckham seconded. Minutes were approved as amended.
MATTERS BEFORE THE COMMITTEE
Stephanie Moulton-Peters introduced herself and spoke briefly of her involvement with fire
safety and the City of Mill Valley. Mill residents did not support the proposed 3-foot defensible
space rule, so the Mill Valley committee opted to keep the plant removal but gave residents two
years to meet compliance. Her advice is to be proactive, yet, realistic.
Mayor Gary Phillips shared his concerns about the extended compliance timeline.
Gina Daly brought up the incentives that were used during the drought to get residents to
replace lawns and use less water, how can we learn from that. She suggested reserving the
chipper program for elderly residents on a fixed income.
There was general agreement that wildfire mitigation will require “sticks and carrots”.
Open discussion continued about implantation and deadlines. Moulton-Peters suggested
“phasing in” tasks and dates to make it more manageable for residents.
Mayor asked Quinn to direct the discussion. Quinn touched on enforcement and regulations of
short-term rental units in the City. Mayor posed a question regarding the distribution of the
funds from a potential wildfire tax measure. He wants to be assured that San Rafael will see
equivalent benefits to what it contributes, recognizing projects in neighboring committees also
benefit San Rafael.
Luckham says the key is getting buy in from the public, all you need is the stick but if you can
get some carrot, i.e. chipper program, replacement solutions, that implementing decisions
would be easier. He expressed that this is a statewide issue.
Unterman asked the Chief is the state would come in and overrule any implementations that San
Rafael pushes forward. Chief responded that he does not believe the state minimum will exceed
the local regulations put into place. He believes anything San Rafael ends up implanting will
exceed the state.
Mayor asked Katie Miller how she felt the meeting was going so far and if the discussion had
provided any clarity or eased her concerns. Miller said the discussion helped her understand the
City wanted to take a nuanced approach to the landscaping requirements but that most people
don’t know or understand that. She believes the City needs to do a better job communicating
with the public their intent and process.
Cristine Alilovich asked Chief Gray to speak to the funding of the JPA. Chief Gray spoke to the
effects of the recession and the support of Measure A to perform vegetation management in
the open space. There will be administrative costs to maintaining the JPA. “We need a unified
method and a unified agency to tackle what’s in front of us.” Chief expressed his concerns and
difficulties with hiring and keeping vegetation management employees.
Gina Daly mentioned AmeriCorps and asked about potential to work with them or other out of
the box solutions.
Quinn shared her knowledge and experience with AmeriCorps. The City recently had an
AmeriCorps group working in the San Rafael for 10 weeks, costing the City less than $5,000. The
City currently has another application with AmeriCorps for assistance next year.
Vogl suggested the committee spend additional time discussing the immediate ignition zone
standards.
Alilovich stated there will be community meetings following the City Council meeting.
Future meeting dates were set for October 9th, at 4:30pm at 618 B street.
Meeting Adjourned at 6:02 P.M.