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IN CONFERENCE ROOM 201 OF THE CITY OF SAN RAFAEL, MONDAY, NOVEMBER 7,
1988.
Regular Meeting:
CLOSED SESSION
1. CLOSED SESSION TO DISCUSS LITIGATION AND LABOR NEGOTIATIONS -
File 1.4.1a
No. 88-25(a) - (#1) - Gary Cordes Vs. City of San Rafael.
No. 88-25(b) - (#2). No. 88-25(c) - (#4)
No reportable action was taken.
IN THE COUNCIL CHAMBERS OF THE CITY OF SAN RAFAEL, MONDAY, NOVEMBER 7,
1988, at 8:00 PM.
Regular Meeting: Present: Lawrence E. Mulryan, Mayor
San Rafael City Council Albert J. Boro, Councilmember
Dorothy L. Breiner, Councilmember
Gary R. Frugoli, Councilmember
Joan Thayer, Councilmember
Absent: None
Others Present: Pamela J. Nicolai, City Manager; James G. Flageollet,
Assistant City Attorney; Jeanne M. Leoncini, City Clerk.
CONSENT CALENDAR
Councilmember Thayer moved and Councilmember Frugoli seconded, to approve
the recommended action on the following Consent Calendar items:
Item Recommended Action:
2. Approval of Minutes of Regular Approved as submitted.
Meeting of October 3, 1988 and
Special Meetings of October 17,
24 and 31, 1988 (CC)
3. Approval of Final Map for "Smith RESOLUTION NO. 7855 - APPROVING
Ranch Homes" (PW) - File 5-1-290 FINAL MAP OF SUBDIVISION ENTITLED,
"MAP OF SMITH RANCH HOMES" TS87-2
5. Fine Free Week and Canned Food Approved staff recommendation.
Drive to Benefit the Marin Com-
munity Food Bank (December 12-17,
1988) (Lib/Cult.Affs) File 9-3-61
6. Authorization to Close Library
on Saturday, December 24, 1988
(Xmas Eve), and Saturday, Dec-
ember 31, 1988 (New Year's Eve)
(Lib/Cult.Affs) - File 9-3-61
7. Contract With ABR Associates
for Administrative Support of
Falkirk Centennial Restoration
Community Committees ( Lib/
Cult.Affs) - File 4-3-200
10. Adoption of Resolution Amending
Resolution No. 7426 Pertaining
to the Compensation for Manage-
ment and Mid -Management Person-
nel (CM) - File 7-3 x 8-5
11. Zoning Ordinance Work Program
(Pl) - File 10-1 x 10-2
Approved staff recommendation.
RESOLUTION NO. 7856 - AUTHORIZING
SIGNING OF A CONTRACT, LEASE OR
AGREEMENT (W/ABR Assoc. for Pro-
fessional Services, thru 10/30/89)
RESOLUTION NO. 7857 - AMENDING
RESOLUTION 7426 PERTAINING TO
THE COMPENSATION AND WORKING CON-
DITIONS FOR MANAGEMENT AND MID -
MANAGEMENT EMPLOYEES (1 yr. agree-
ment from 7/1/88 thru 6/30/89;
3% salary range increase (7/1/88);
2% salary range increase (1/1/89))
Accepted report.
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12. Approval of Parking Meter Holi- Approved staff recommendation.
day, Including Third and "A"
Parking Structure, Beginning
Friday, November 25, 1988 to
Monday, January 2, 1989 (RA) -
File 11-18
13. Request for Leave to Present
Late Claim - B. Paul Hernandez
(PD) - Claim No. 3-1-1363
14. Claims for Damages:
a. Michael & Han Mackintosh
(PW) - Claim -No. 3-1-1351
b. Frances M. Balkovich (Rec) -
Claim No. 3-1-1367
C. Catherine M. Shovlin (PW) -
Claim No. 3-1-1368
Approved Insurance Consulting
Associates, Inc. recommendation
for denial of late claim application.
Approved Insurance Consulting
Associates, Inc. recommendation
for denial of claim a.
Approved City Attorney's recom-
mendations for denial of claims
b. and c.
AYES: COUNCILMEMBERS: Boro, Breiner, Frugoli, Thayer & Mayor Mulryan
NOES: COUNCILMEMBERS: None
ABSENT: COUNCILMEMBERS: None
ABSTAINED: COUNCILMEMBERS: Mayor Mulryan abstained from voting on
minutes of October 3, 1988 only, and
Councilmember Breiner abstained from
voting on minutes of October 24, 1988
only, due to absence from meetings.
The following items were removed from the Consent Calendar for discussion:
4. RESOLUTION COMMITTING LOCAL FUNDS TO INTERCHANGE IMPROVEMENTS AT BELLAM
BOULEVARD/HIGHWAY 101, AND INTERSTATE 580 (PW) - File 11-16 x 8-14
x (SRRA) R-246
Councilmember Frugoli moved and Mayor Mulryan seconded, to adopt the
Resolution committing local funds to the Bellam Boulevard Interchange,
transferring funds from the Andersen Drive Extension project.
Councilmember Boro explained why he intended to vote against the item,
stating he feels the matter has not been adequately reported to the
Council, and there should have been more specifics when the matter
first came up in September.
RESOLUTION NO. 7858 - COMMITTING LOCAL FUNDS TO INTERCHANGE IMPROVE-
MENTS AT BELLAM BOULEVARD, HIGHWAY 101, AND
INTERSTATE 580
AYES: COUNCILMEMBERS: Breiner, Frugoli, Thayer & Mayor Mulryan
NOES: COUNCILMEMBERS: Boro
ABSENT: COUNCILMEMBERS: None
8. RESOLUTION AMENDING RESOLUTION NO. 7825, SETTING NEW BAIL SCHEDULE
FOR CERTAIN MUNICIPAL CODE ORDINANCE VIOLATIONS (CA) - File 11-18
x 9-10-2
Councilmember Boro moved and Councilmember Breiner seconded, to adopt
the Resolution amending Resolution No. 7825 setting new bail schedules,
to add the specific code sections.
RESOLUTION NO. 7859 - AMENDING RESOLUTION NO. 7825, SETTING NEW BAIL
SCHEDULE FOR CERTAIN MUNICIPAL CODE ORDINANCE
VIOLATIONS
AYES: COUNCILMEMBERS: Boro, Breiner, Thayer & Mayor Mulryan
NOES: COUNCILMEMBERS: Frugoli
ABSENT: COUNCILMEMBERS: None
9. AUTHORIZATION TO PURCHASE FIVE (5) 1988 PATROL VEHICLES FOR POLICE
DEPARTMENT (PD) - File 4-2-230
Mayor Mulryan asked for an explanation of this item, and City Manager
Nicolai briefed the Council, stating that five Police vehicles are
scheduled for replacement during this fiscal year, and the Police
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Department has learned that they can purchase five vehicles at this
time at last year's prices based on the public bid process through
the County of Los Angeles, Cooperative Purchase Program. Steve Snyder
Chevrolet has.offered the same car at one half of one percent above
the bid obtained by Los Angeles County. These are the same models
as last year, which will result in savings on parts replacement.
Councilmember Frugoli added that the warranty does not start until
the vehicles go on the road.
Councilmember Frugoli moved and Councilmember Boro seconded, to adopt
the Resolution authorizing purchase of the five patrol cars from Steve
Snyder Chevrolet. .
RESOLUTION NO. 7860 - AUTHORIZING STAFF TO WAIVE COMPETITIVE BIDDING
PROCESS AND AUTHORIZING THE PURCHASE OF FIVE
POLICE VEHICLES THROUGH STEVE SNYDER CHEVROLET
(Unit price $13,230.44, total price $66,152.20)
AYES: COUNCILMEMBERS: Boro, Breiner, Frugoli, Thayer & Mayor Mulryan
NOES: COUNCILMEMBERS: None
ABSENT: COUNCILMEMBERS: None
15. PUBLIC HEARING - APPEAL OF PLANNING COMMISSION'S CONDITIONAL APPROVAL
OF VARIANCE FOR CONSTRUCTION OF A DETACHED TWO -CAR GARAGE WITHIN SIDE
AND FRONT YARD SETBACKS: 227 JEWELL STREET: B. MOHIT, OWNER: DARYL
OLDENKAMP, REP.; MONTECITO NEIGHBORHOOD ASSN., REPRESENTED BY CLIFFORD
P. ELBING, APPELLANT; AP 14-031-23 (Pl) - File 10-4 x 227
Mayor Mulryan declared the public hearing opened.
Acting Planning Director Curt Johnston briefed the Council, stating
that on September 27, 1988, the Planning Commission upheld the Zoning
Administrator's decision to conditionally approve the project, which
consists of replacement of a 334 square foot one -car garage with a
494 square foot two -car garage. He stated that the new garage would
be constructed in the northwest corner of the lot, where a previously
existing garage was located. As conditionally approved by the Zoning
Administrator, the structure would be nine feet in height and 20 feet
in width, which would be one foot higher than the previously existing
garage, and six feet higher than the existing adjacent garage. Mr.
Johnston added that the garage would be set back a minimum of two
feet three inches from the front property line, with a zero setback
on the west property line. The architecture and color of the garage
would be consistent with that of the adjacent garage, consisting of
a flat, tar and gravel roof, white horizontal siding and a sectional
garage door.
Mr. Johnston further stated that the appellant has based his appeal
on two specific items. The first is the visibility of oncoming west-
bound traffic on Jewell being lost due to lack of setbacks. Mr.
Johnston said that the City's Traffic Engineer finds that the location
of the proposed garage will not reduce sight distance at the inter-
section. In an effort to further resolve this issue, the Zoning Ad-
ministrator approved the variance with a condition that the garage
be reduced two feet in width, which would still allow adequate room
for two cars and would further reduce the massing of the garage.
Mr. Johnston added that the appellant's second concern on which he
based his appeal is that future sidewalks will not be possible due
to proposed ramps into the garage which is located on Union Street.
Mr. Johnston stated that the Public Works Department has reviewed
the feasibility of constructing frontage improvements at the subject
site, and finds there is every indication that the proposal will not
be any more detrimental than what currently exists and would probably
be an improvement.
Mr. Johnston called the Council's attention to a memo in their packets
from the City Fire Inspector indicating that the Fire Department had
conducted a driveby inspection of fire apparatus access to the subject
property and no difficulties in access were noted.
Mr. Johnston noted that this is a steeply sloping lot, and the garage
would have to be near the road; also, the existing house would pre-
clude putting the garage anywhere else on the lot.
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Councilmember Breiner stated that esthetics have not been mentioned,
and Mr. Johnston responded that the application originally submitted
had a pitched roof and was a few feet taller than it is now. Staff
had it changed to a flat roof, and the total height now is only nine
feet. It is 20 feet wide, which is the minimum for a two -car garage.
Clifford Elbing, representing the Montecito Neighborhood Association,
then addressed the Council, citing the basis of the appeal. The first
item mentioned was the location of the garage on the turning radius
of Union and Jewell, with half of the garage on Union and half on
Jewell. Mr. Elbing stated this would require the tenants' car to
block both streets while they unlock the padlocked garage door, thus
preventing traffic flow in either street. Mr. Elbing cited measure-
ments from the County Surveyor's Map, showing the narrow roadways,
which are further narrowed by parking. He said that sidewalks, curbs
and gutters end approximately 100 feet south of Jewell Street on both
sides of Union, which forces everyone - young, aged, handicapped -
to walk on the street against the flow of vehicle traffic day and
night. Mayor Mulryan asked what relationship this information has
to the proposed garage, and Mr. Elbing responded they would have to
have the ramps extending into the street. He added that he has never
seen a car there, nor the garage doors open, but he has seen a light
in the garage. The _neighbors feel the garage is being used as a living
unit.
Mr. Elbing recommended an alternate location for the garage, on the
northeast side of the lot, with a ramp down to the garage from Jewell
Street. He also recommended that they could have a carport instead
of another garage. Mr. Elbing cited the fact that plans for the garage
include floor plugs and windows, which further leads him to believe
the new garage will also be used as living quarters.
Jeff Mulanax then addressed the Council, stating that approving this
project would be encouraging nonconforming buildings. He stated when
the previous garage was demolished there was evidence that it had
been used as living quarters. He said he is very interested in seeing
action on the Montecito Neighborhood Plan. He requested that the
Council deny the project.
Mayor Mulryan asked if there was a complaint filed that the garage
was being used as living quarters, and Mr. Johnston responded that
the Code Enforcement Officer had inspected the area and there were
no cooking facilities and no bathroom. However, there was a cot.
Mr. Johnston further informed the Council that this was originally
started as an addition to the existing garage. As construction oc-
curred the applicant made the decision to remove the existing structure
instead of simply adding on to it. The Planning staff told the owners
that it needed a variance.
Councilmember Boro inquired if the quality of the materials in the
plans is above average for a garage, including lights and windows.
Mr. Johnston responded that the dry -walling is required by the Uniform
Building Code (UBC), and that the wiring is not unusual. He stated
that the 712" height is less than required by UBC for habitable struc-
tures. Mr. Boro commented that at the time the applicant demolished
the original building, he basically lost the "grandfathering" privilege.
Councilmember Thayer stated that in that neighborhood, without a
Neighborhood Plan, any variance should be carefully scrutinized.
She said she will vote against the project, and that she cannot see
any economic hardship.
Steve Levin, who lives on Broadview, expressed his concern about the
garage being converted to a living unit.
There being no further public input, Mayor Mulryan closed the public
hearing.
Councilmember Frugoli felt the site could be monitored easily, as
to its use, and that with roll -up doors it would be difficult to live
in. He pointed out that if it is used as a garage, it would take
two cars off the street.
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Councilmember Breiner stated she felt the statements made were very
persuasive. She felt that having a garage in that location to take
cars off the street would not justify it, and that a carport which
was set back far enough would be sufficient.
Councilmember Breiner moved and Councilmember Thayer seconded, to
grant the appeal. Mr. Johnston added that staff will follow up with
a Resolution on the Consent Calendar for the next Council meeting.
AYES: COUNCILMEMBERS: Boro, Breiner, Frugoli, Thayer & Mayor Mulryan
NOES: COUNCILMEMBERS: None
ABSENT: COUNCILMEMBERS: None
16. PUBLIC HEARING - TO CONSIDER AN ORDINANCE AMENDING TITLE 4, CHAPTER
4.12 OF THE SAN RAFAEL MUNICIPAL CODE RE DISCLOSURE OF HAZARDOUS
MATERIALS (FD) - File 9-3-31
Mayor Mulryan declared the public hearing opened.
Fire Chief Robert Marcucci briefed the Council, giving them the legis-
lative history relating to Disclosure of Hazardous Material, commencing
in August of 1985. He stated that the proposed Ordinance will bring
the City into conformance with State requirements and will also
strengthen, at local level, several areas which the State law does
not adequately cover. These areas are the requirement of a Closure
Plan and reimbursement of costs to the City for response to Threatened
or Actual Release of a hazardous material. Chief Marcucci stated
the recommended Ordinance specifically requires at least sixty days'
notice to the Fire Department prior to closure, and that a plan be
submitted with specific requirements as indicated in the Ordinance.
He stated that presently there is no recourse for the City to be
reimbursed for responses to release of a hazardous material. In
addition, there are no provisions to be reimbursed for mitigating
action where property owners have failed to meet their responsibilities
to insure the public that their site is clean of hazardous materials.
Elissa Giambastiani, Executive Director of the San Rafael Chamber
of Commerce, asked for clarification on reimbursing the City for
responses to release of a hazardous material, and stated she would
like to know what the difference is between that and a fire in a place
which has hazardous materials.
Chief Marcucci responded that the difference is in the sophistication
of the equipment which needs to be used. He explained that they do
charge for fires, if they catch someone who has started a fire and
they are certain of it. In such cases they send the person a bill.
He stated that with regard to hazardous materials, it is very time-
consuming and requires a lot of equipment to be used. If there is
an accidental spill, the person will not be charged; but if people
cause a problem after they have been warned about proper safeguards,
the City should not have to absorb those costs.
There being no further public input, Mayor Mulryan closed the public
hearing.
The title of the Ordinance was read:
"AN ORDINANCE OF THE CITY OF SAN RAFAEL AMENDING CHAPTER 4.12 OF TITLE
4 OF THE MUNICIPAL CODE OF THE CITY OF SAN RAFAEL RELATING TO THE
DISCLOSURE OF HAZARDOUS MATERIALS".
Councilmember Breiner moved and Councilmember Frugoli seconded, to
dispense with the reading of the Ordinance in its entirety and refer
to it by title only, and pass Charter Ordinance No. 1551 to print
by the following vote, to wit:
AYES: COUNCILMEMBERS: Boro, Breiner, Frugoli, Thayer & Mayor Mulryan
NOES: COUNCILMEMBERS: None
ABSENT: COUNCILMEMBERS: None
17. PUBLIC HEARING - TO CONSIDER AN ORDINANCE RE SALE OF CITY -OWNED PROPERTY
LOCATED AT 335 FORBES AVENUE, SAN RAFAEL, CALIFORNIA, AP 10-074-11,
TO GERRY K. ROBERTSON OF 3020 BRIDGEWAY, SAUSALITO, CALIFORNIA 94965,
AS REQUIRED BY ARTICLE VII, SECTION 7, OF THE SAN RAFAEL MUNICIPAL
CODE (RA) - File 2-7 x 2-5-18
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Mayor Mulryan declared the public hearing opened.
Jake Ours, Assistant Executive Director of the Redevelopment Agency,
informed the Council that they had a sealed bid opening on October
12, 1988, and that twenty-one bids were received. Mr. Ours reported
they received a very good price, $202,650, for the property.
There being no public input, Mayor Mulryan closed the public hearing.
The title of the Ordinance was read:
"AN ORDINANCE OF THE CITY OF SAN RAFAEL PROVIDING FOR THE SALE AND
CONVEYANCE OF PUBLIC REAL PROPERTY LOCATED AT 335 FORBES AVENUE, SAN
RAFAEL, CALIFORNIA TO GERRY K. ROBERTSON OF 3020 BRIDGEWAY IN SAUSALITO,
CALIFORNIA 94965".
Councilmember Thayer moved and Councilmember Breiner seconded, to
dispense with the reading of the Ordinance in its entirety and refer
to it by title only, and pass Charter Ordinance No. 1552 to print
by the following vote, to wit:
AYES: COUNCILMEMBERS: Boro, Breiner, Frugoli, Thayer & Mayor Mulryan
NOES: COUNCILMEMBERS: None
ABSENT: COUNCILMEMBERS: None
18. PUBLIC HEARING - TO CONSIDER AN ORDINANCE AMENDING SAN RAFAEL MUNICIPAL
CODE TITLE 2, CHAPTER 2.12, SECTIONS 2.12.041 AND 2.12.042 AND ACCEPTING
THE REQUIREMENT OF SECTION 13522 OF THE CALIFORNIA PENAL CODE RELATING
TO THE TRAINING OF LAW ENFORCEMENT PERSONNEL (RE: DISPATCHERS) (PD)-
- File 9-3-30
Mayor Mulryan declared the public hearing opened.
Captain Robert Krolak informed the Council that the San Rafael Police
Department's participation in the Peace Officer Standards and Training
program began in 1960. He stated that legislation which will become
effective on January 1, 1989, will allow public safety dispatchers
with primary responsibility for law enforcement to also participate
in the program. Since the Department is now in the Peace Officer
Program, it is eligible to participate in the Dispatcher Program.
The Department will be reimbursed for certain dispatcher training
costs only if they participate in the Dispatcher Program.
There being no public input, Mayor Mulryan closed the public hearing.
The title of the Ordinance was read:
"AN ORDINANCE OF THE CITY COUNCIL OF THE CITY OF SAN RAFAEL, AMENDING
SAN RAFAEL MUNICIPAL CODE TITLE 2, CHAPTER 2.12, SECTIONS 2.12.041
AND 2.12.042 AND ACCEPTING THE REQUIREMENTS OF SECTION 13522 OF THE
PENAL CODE RELATING TO THE TRAINING OF LAW ENFORCEMENT PERSONNEL (Re:
Dispatchers)"
Councilmember Frugoli moved and Councilmember Boro seconded, to dispense
with the reading of the Ordinance in its entirety and refer to it
by title only, and pass Charter Ordinance No. 1553 to print by the
following vote, to wit:
AYES: COUNCILMEMBERS: Boro, Breiner, Frugoli, Thayer & Mayor Mulryan
NOES: COUNCILMEMBERS: None
ABSENT: COUNCILMEMBERS: None
19. SECOND READING AND FINAL ADOPTION - ORDINANCE NO. 1550, AN ORDINANCE
OF THE CITY COUNCIL OF THE CITY OF SAN RAFAEL, AMENDING TITLE 3, CHAPTER
3.20 ENTITLED "UNIFORM TRANSIENT OCCUPANCY TAX", SECTION 3.20.030
OF THE SAN RAFAEL MUNICIPAL CODE (Increase From 8 Percent to 10 Percent
- Applies Only to Hotel/Motel Charges) - File 9-12
The title of the Ordinance was read:
"An Ordinance of the City Council of the City of San Rafael, Amending
Title 3, Chapter 3.20 Entitled "Uniform Transient Occupancy Tax",
Section 3.20.030 of the San Rafael Municipal Code (Increase From 8
Percent to 10 Percent - Applies Only to Hotel/Motel Charges)"
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Councilmember Boro moved and Councilmember Thayer seconded, to dispense
with the reading, to refer to it by title only, and to adopt Charter
Ordinance No. 1550 by the following vote, to wit:
AYES: COUNCILMEMBERS: Boro, Thayer & Mayor Mulryan
NOES: COUNCILMEMBERS: Breiner & Frugoli
ABSENT: COUNCILMEMBERS: None
20. REPORT ON NEON SIGNS IN DOWNTOWN AREA - File 125 x 10-1
Councilmember Breiner referred the Council to a memo she had prepared,
regarding her concern over the proliferation of certain neon signs
in the downtown area. She stated that she was told the Planning staff
had permitted the signs based on their interpretation of the Sign
Ordinance which designated them as "temporary signs". Councilmember
Breiner said she asked that the Mayor and other Councilmembers observe
some of the window signage in question before they discussed it further.
She stated that subsequently she was made aware of a totally different
section of the Sign Ordinance which is applicable in this situation,
under Section 14.12.03, What is Prohibited. Privileged Signs: If
the manufacturer's name and/or emblems exceed one-third of a face
of the sign. She stated she had asked the City Attorney about this
and that in his opinion those signs are illegal, under the section
just mentioned.
City Attorney Ragghianti deferred to Assistant City Attorney Flageollet,
who had researched the matter. Mr. Flageollet then informed the Council
that privileged signs are prohibited and he believes the problem is
with the definition of a privileged sign. He stated a privileged
sign designates a local retailer, where the usual beer sign identifies
a national product. He stated the privileged signs are defined in
Section 14.12.100, and it is his opinion that a beer sign does not
fall within that description.
Mayor Mulryan asked what the beer sign status would be, and Mr.
Flageollet replied they would be temporary signs. Mayor Mulryan
inquired if this would apply, even if they are there for a long time,
and Mr. Flageollet replied in the affirmative.
There followed a general discussion regarding various stores in the
downtown area, and how their signage would be defined, and which would
be considered illegal.
Councilmember Breiner stated that if the Council is going to open
up the Sign Ordinance for revision, it should be done with a great
deal of thought. The definitions should be stronger so they are not
vague, and correctly interpreted by the Planning staff. She recommended
that other communities' sign ordinances might be a help in definitions.
Also, signs supplied by manufacturers could be used but only inside
and not visible from the street.
Acting Planning Director Johnston said the Planning staff will work
on the revisions and bring them back to the Council.
Elissa Giambastiani, Executive Director, San Rafael Chamber of Commerce,
recommended that Council take time for public input when they are
revising the Ordinance.
ADD ITEM:
RE: LAND MANAGEMENT PLAN FOR OPEN SPACE IN TERRA LINDA - File 13-14-1
Councilmember Boro requested an updated report on the Land Management
Plan for Open Space in Terra Linda by the end of the year.
There being no further business, the meeting was adjourned at 10:00 PM.
�4.
JEANNE LEONCINI�ty Clerk'
APPROVED THIS DAY OF , 1988
MAYOR OF THE CITY OF SAN RAFAEL
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